Dragon Ball Z: Majin Vegeta vs. Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan

By Jeremy Carden

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A Saiyan Prince returned to his roots vs. a Saiyan-Human hybrid that has finally let his anger fully rise to the surface.

Dragon Ball fans have discussed this battle for quite some time. It may not be one of the more well-known topics of discussion, but I have seen some heated arguments about the victor of this match.

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Keep in mind that Majin Vegeta will be facing the Super Saiyan 2 Gohan seen during the Cell Saga.

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Ultimate Gohan is a lot stronger than he was against Cell (at least in terms of power alone).

However, Gohan had not trained for 7 years. This means that even though his power was truly brought to the surface after Old Kai’s ritual; he did not instantly regain the fighting instinct that he had during his pre-teen years.

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Majin Vegeta is the persona of Vegeta that had buried ever since he opened his heart while living on earth. He was practically the bloodthirsty Saiyan that he was prior to his first meeting with Goku and the Z-Fighters.

That is why I would find this battle so interesting because Vegeta (now living by his Saiyan heritage alone) would be facing off with a Gohan that has let his Saiyan half take control of the wheel.

Basically, we would be seeing 2 Saiyans itching for a good fight!

Who would be the victor?

Let’s take a look at some key elements that could decide the winner of this Super Saiyan duel.

Power:

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In the anime AND manga when Goku powered up to Super Saiyan 2. Vegeta said that he (Goku) was “at least more powerful than your son (Gohan) was against Cell.”

Remember that even Goku was surprised when Majin Vegeta powered up, and stated that the fight might take longer than he had originally thought.

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Considering that Vegeta was literally even with Goku at SS2 (no SS3 here folks), both Saiyans had surpassed the Gohan seen during the Cell Games.

Even though Vegeta is more powerful, I do not think that he would be able to walk away from this battle without a scratch.

Motivation:

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Keep in mind that until the moment Goku sacrificed himself by taking the self-destructing Cell to King Kai’s Planet, Gohan was literally acting like a Saiyan since the moment that he turned SS2.

He was finally letting his timid and reserved temperament take a backseat, and his Saiyan instincts were running the show. Gohan would be looking for an opponent to test out his new power against.

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Majin Vegeta was basically Vegeta letting go of his “human emotions” that he developed while living on earth and the family he created with Bulma. He was basically acting and fighting like he was prior to coming to earth for the Dragon Balls.

This would be the Saiyan Prince from the past that would never allow another being to rival his power (which he claimed was (#1 in the universe). For a half-breed kid to try and fight him would be something that he would never accept. That is why Vegeta would be giving it his all to squash Gohan.

Skill:

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Gohan’s fighting skills were at their best during the Cell Games because he learned everything from his father (minus things like Kaio-Ken, Spirit Bomb and Instant Transmission, etc.). We saw that Goku’s skills were enough to keep Majin Vegeta on his toes, and I’m sure that Gohan would be able to do the same.

I think what would make this fight even more spectacular than the battle against Cell would be the fact that Gohan would be facing someone MORE powerful than he was.

Vegeta would be an opponent that Gohan could not just toss around like he was nothing, and he would have to use 100% power from the start.

Gohan would finally be letting his inner Saiyan out to the surface, and even though Vegeta had decades of practice with that kind of life; I think Gohan would be scarier because he has Saiyan blood plus human rage to further his spectacular power.

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You cannot dismiss the fact that Buu Saga Vegeta had been training for nearly 7 whole years, but not to the extreme level that he did for the Androids. He reduced some of his solo training in order to train Trunks from the present timeline.

Could his brutal skills match up with Gohan who is also brutal, BUT has the training of Goku under his belt? 

During his battle with Cell, Gohan was letting the battle drag on to make the Android suffer.

Vegeta likes to taunt his opponents into showing their true power or willingly let them increase their strength for a greater challenge (even if it leads to his ass being handed to him).

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Both were landing powerful blows to their opponents. Gohan was pulling off an impressive massacre against the Cell Jrs.

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Instead of quickly defeating Cell, Gohan was willing to make him suffer with crippling blows that dealt him great pain.

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Majin Vegeta was trying to kill Goku (who was already dead at the time) with brutal tactics. Seriously, they were fighting at full force, but you could tell that Vegeta was going for blood!

These two were MADE to battle each other!

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Overall, I think that Majin Vegeta would be the victor, but it would be one hell of a fight!

If you told me that Gohan came out as the victor, I wouldn’t be surprised. I’d just want to know how he pulled it off!

Gohan coming out the victor could be the result of Vegeta doing a Saiyan monologue allowing his opponent to get the upper hand.

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Not to mention, Vegeta could push Gohan into a corner and despite his power being at this peak; Gohan might be able to dig even deeper to tap into an even higher level of power!

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The Father-Son Kamehameha Wave could be considered a tag-team attack. Would that be fair in this 1-on-1 battle?

Goku was technically there “in spirit” so Gohan is allowed to use the attack in this fight because Goku wouldn’t be adding his ki to Gohan’s attack.

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Despite Majin Vegeta’s ultimate attack being the Final Explosion, I do not know if he could use it in this battle. The reason is because if he uses the attack; he dies along with his opponent (assuming it is enough to take them out).

I am not even 100% certain that Gohan would even put up that good of a battle to make Vegeta resort to a kamikaze attack…

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Overall, this battle is one that I would love to see in some form of media (outside of the video games in the player’s own what-if battles).

Who do you think would come out on top?

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Dragonball Z Theories: Why Did Majin Vegeta Turn To Stone After Using the Final Explosion?

by Jeremy Carden

A few years ago, a friend told me a theory that blew my mind and even to this day I’m not sure whether or not I agree with him because it is a very solid argument but there is reason to doubt.

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The theory is; while Majin Vegeta was using the Final Explosion to completely destroy Majin Buu, somehow Buu spat on Vegeta turning him into stone.

But how could Majin Buu do that?

Well the answer is one word; mimicry.

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When Shin was fighting Buu, he launched a Ki blast from his eyes that did nothing but Buu did the same attack and it sent the little guy flying.

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Remember when Buu was fighting Super Saiyan 3 Goku? The Saiyan fired a Super Kamehameha Wave that blew a hole through Buu’s stomach.

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Right after regenerating, he charged up his own Super Kamehameha and fired it at Goku and he deflected it into the horizon where it exploded (as Babidi put it that blast destroyed 1/16 of the planet).

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Going back, to when Dabura was trying to beat Buu in order to not get eaten, the Demon King used the Stone Spit technique but Buu kept dodging.

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A poor lizard wasn’t as fortunate (but was restored when Buu ate Dabura, yea lizard!!).

It stands to reason that he would somehow be able to mimic the move after seeing it once; I mean he did with the Eye Ki Blast and Super Kamehameha Wave.

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The biggest piece of evidence my friend pointed out; the expression on Vegeta’s face when they do a close-up on him. It looked like he was shocked or surprised. It kind of looks like he had a look of failure on his face or something like that.

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Krillin and Piccolo’s stone statues had that same look, the horror of seeing their bodies turned to stone by they could do nothing about it until they had completely transformed.

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While using the attack, Vegeta was screaming as he was channeling all of his energy into the blast to destroy the pink menace.

Here is the reasonable doubt; it was also shown that Buu had been ripped into pieces and seemingly destroyed before Vegeta was.

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I don’t know how certain I can be that off-screen before he was shown to be ripped apart, Buu could have spat on Vegeta but we just didn’t see it. Also even if Buu had done it, there is no guarantee that Vegeta would have noticed; he was screaming his lungs out as his body was expelling all of its Ki. Not to mention his eyes were closed during the explosion and he could have opened them while he was feeling his body not blowing up by using the Final Explosion but hardening from the Stone Spit explaining why he had that look on his face after he was turned to stone.

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I mean when you think about it, the Final Flash (as Piccolo mentioned) could have killed Cell if he had not stepped out of the way at the last second, just getting part of his upper torso blown off before regenerating.

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Vegeta used the Final Explosion, and possibly before being ripped/blown to pieces, Buu spit on Vegeta disrupting the attack before it could do its job and then Buu regenerates.

A lot of similarities there…

There seems to be solid evidence on both sides of the argument as to whether or not it was the Final Explosion that turned Vegeta into stone or Buu using the Stone Spit on him.

The attack is only used once in Z of course due to it killing the user so the end result of the attack has only this one example to be used in this debate.

It is true that Super Saiyan 4 Goku attempted this attack TWICE in DBGT;

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First he uses it on Super Android 17 with the attack being big enough to be sensed by the Z-Fighters far from the battlefield promoting Vegeta to scold Goku for using the attack.

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Thankfully, 17 put up a shield at the last second protecting himself and Goku as well only exhausting his Ki making him revert back to kid form.

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Then he attempted to use it against Omega Shenron only for Vegeta to show up to stop his fellow Saiyan from making the same mistake that he did against Majin Buu.

Wow for some reason Goku seemed a bit suicidal in GT…

But since Goku failed to successfully use the attack in both situations we do not see if he would have turned to stone as well after using the attack.

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Whenever I think of explosion or self-destruct used in the DB series, I am reminded of the times characters used Self-Destruct techniques and barely anything reminded of their bodies like “Farewell Mr. Tien” or the Saibamen Bomb.

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Final Explosion just doesn’t seem like an attack that leaves behind a stone corpse after the attack is completed at least that is what I believe.

In any case, this theory is interesting and it still rattles my brain even to this day.

What do you think?