Dragonball Z Theories: Why Did Majin Vegeta Turn To Stone After Using the Final Explosion?

by Jeremy Carden

A few years ago, a friend told me a theory that blew my mind and even to this day I’m not sure whether or not I agree with him because it is a very solid argument but there is reason to doubt.

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The theory is; while Majin Vegeta was using the Final Explosion to completely destroy Majin Buu, somehow Buu spat on Vegeta turning him into stone.

But how could Majin Buu do that?

Well the answer is one word; mimicry.

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When Shin was fighting Buu, he launched a Ki blast from his eyes that did nothing but Buu did the same attack and it sent the little guy flying.

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Remember when Buu was fighting Super Saiyan 3 Goku? The Saiyan fired a Super Kamehameha Wave that blew a hole through Buu’s stomach.

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Right after regenerating, he charged up his own Super Kamehameha and fired it at Goku and he deflected it into the horizon where it exploded (as Babidi put it that blast destroyed 1/16 of the planet).

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Going back, to when Dabura was trying to beat Buu in order to not get eaten, the Demon King used the Stone Spit technique but Buu kept dodging.

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A poor lizard wasn’t as fortunate (but was restored when Buu ate Dabura, yea lizard!!).

It stands to reason that he would somehow be able to mimic the move after seeing it once; I mean he did with the Eye Ki Blast and Super Kamehameha Wave.

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The biggest piece of evidence my friend pointed out; the expression on Vegeta’s face when they do a close-up on him. It looked like he was shocked or surprised. It kind of looks like he had a look of failure on his face or something like that.

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Krillin and Piccolo’s stone statues had that same look, the horror of seeing their bodies turned to stone by they could do nothing about it until they had completely transformed.

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While using the attack, Vegeta was screaming as he was channeling all of his energy into the blast to destroy the pink menace.

Here is the reasonable doubt; it was also shown that Buu had been ripped into pieces and seemingly destroyed before Vegeta was.

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I don’t know how certain I can be that off-screen before he was shown to be ripped apart, Buu could have spat on Vegeta but we just didn’t see it. Also even if Buu had done it, there is no guarantee that Vegeta would have noticed; he was screaming his lungs out as his body was expelling all of its Ki. Not to mention his eyes were closed during the explosion and he could have opened them while he was feeling his body not blowing up by using the Final Explosion but hardening from the Stone Spit explaining why he had that look on his face after he was turned to stone.

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I mean when you think about it, the Final Flash (as Piccolo mentioned) could have killed Cell if he had not stepped out of the way at the last second, just getting part of his upper torso blown off before regenerating.

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Vegeta used the Final Explosion, and possibly before being ripped/blown to pieces, Buu spit on Vegeta disrupting the attack before it could do its job and then Buu regenerates.

A lot of similarities there…

There seems to be solid evidence on both sides of the argument as to whether or not it was the Final Explosion that turned Vegeta into stone or Buu using the Stone Spit on him.

The attack is only used once in Z of course due to it killing the user so the end result of the attack has only this one example to be used in this debate.

It is true that Super Saiyan 4 Goku attempted this attack TWICE in DBGT;

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First he uses it on Super Android 17 with the attack being big enough to be sensed by the Z-Fighters far from the battlefield promoting Vegeta to scold Goku for using the attack.

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Thankfully, 17 put up a shield at the last second protecting himself and Goku as well only exhausting his Ki making him revert back to kid form.

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Then he attempted to use it against Omega Shenron only for Vegeta to show up to stop his fellow Saiyan from making the same mistake that he did against Majin Buu.

Wow for some reason Goku seemed a bit suicidal in GT…

But since Goku failed to successfully use the attack in both situations we do not see if he would have turned to stone as well after using the attack.

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Whenever I think of explosion or self-destruct used in the DB series, I am reminded of the times characters used Self-Destruct techniques and barely anything reminded of their bodies like “Farewell Mr. Tien” or the Saibamen Bomb.

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Final Explosion just doesn’t seem like an attack that leaves behind a stone corpse after the attack is completed at least that is what I believe.

In any case, this theory is interesting and it still rattles my brain even to this day.

What do you think?

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Could Bulla and Pan surpass Goten and Trunks?

By Jeremy Carden

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Yes, I will be talking about the two female Saiyans in the show (well females with Saiyan blood in them).

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As a matter of fact, aside from Fasha they are the only female Saiyans that gets a memorable role in the show…

What I mean by them surpassing the boys is that since these two are born from “rivaling” families (to a certain extent), I think these two would be the female counterparts to what Goten and Trunks were.

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Of course the other difference is that unlike Goten, Pan’s father was Gohan not Goku.

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However, the end result is the same she is the newest addition to the Son family and along with that she has access to incredible power.

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Now, it seems that Pan is going to be born before Bulla due to the events of Battle of Gods with Videl being pregnant and Bulma not being shown or mentioned to be carrying a baby inside her.

Not to get off subject but I feel that the reason for Bulma getting pregnant again would most likely be due to Vegeta’s love for her. Whoa, why would I say something like that?

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Remember in Battle of Gods, when Bills slapped Bulma HARD, Vegeta got PISSED THE F*** OFF! That was when his Super Saiyan Ki (according to Roshi) surpassed even the power of Super Saiyan 3 Goku!! I think he said something like “How dare you hurt my BULMA!!!!”

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That was when he went into a fit of rage actually managing to land some hits on Bills something that SS3 Goku, Fat Buu, Mystic Gohan, Piccolo, SS Gotenks and that other Z-Fighters were unable to do!

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After the events of the movie, I can see these two having another “passion trip” like they did in the Android Saga but this time there would be more than just passion but true love behind it!

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In any case, back to the manner at hand; GT was a real shame not just because of the lack of character growth for Gohan and the other Saiyan hybrids but Bulla was just…useless.

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Her only moment of usefulness (similar to Pan having only one making her existence somewhat bearable) was getting Vegeta to shave his mustache.

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Pan’s only real use (aside from being annoying and messing stuff up) was her tears helping Goku reach SS4.

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Also, in Battle of Gods it was Pan (unborn) who helped Goku reach Super Saiyan God! Wow, she wasn’t even born and already she has one up’ed Bulla!

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Pan was the one shown to actually have powers, true we see Bulla flying (once) but that was only when she was controlled by Baby. It is debatable as to whether or not she knew how to fly before. Let’s say that it was Trunks or Vegeta that taught her but we can’t be sure. If she learned how to fly, I’d imagine it was just for her to get to the mall faster than a car or one of the Capsule Planes could take her…

What a waste of Saiyan blood!

What a waste of Saiyan blood!

You know what the real shame is? Pan was only 25% Saiyan while Bulla was 50% Saiyan, talk about an utter waste of Saiyan blood and what is even worse is that aside from Ki training most likely from Gohan.

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She learned some martial arts from Mr. Satan and still proved to be more powerful in combat than Bulla!!

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Hercule; I’m more powerful than a Saiyan?

I don’t know what Bulla’s excuse for not fighting is but when you get out shined by one of Mr. Satan’s disciples (and possibly Mr. Satan himself), I don’t know what to say for you!

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Pan guess what! I’m stronger than a Saiyan!!!!

Bulma; My daughter is weaker than Mr. Satan???

Bulma; My daughter is weaker than Mr. Satan???

Pan and Goku; Uh-huh...

Pan and Goku; Uh-huh…

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*face palms dashboard* My life means nothing…

I'm so ashamed...I disown you as a daughter!

I’m so ashamed…I disown you as a daughter!

OW! What was that for?! At least I'm not a cross dresser!

OW! What was that for?! At least I’m not a cross dresser!

Trunks; Can I pass as your daughter now dad?

Trunks; Can I pass as your daughter now dad?

SON OF A NAMEK!!!!!!

SON OF A NAMEK!!!!!!

Vegeta; That's it Bulma, we are having a third child and this time we'd better get it right!!

Vegeta; That’s it Bulma, we are having a third child and this time we’d better get it right!!

Vegeta should have pushed her like he did Trunks so he’d surpass Goten! I mean she is 50% Saiyan and her father is the Prince of All Saiyans!!!!!!!

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If anyone should have become a Super Saiyan it should have been her! Well just from genetics alone since she has 25% more Saiyan in her than Pan.

Of course being the daughter of one of the wealthiest companies in the world probably did nothing to motivate her to take the training route instead opting to go shopping, she seems like her mother.

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But at least in the DB and early DBZ days, Bulma never backed down from an adventure. She was spoiled but she was innovative, resourceful, adventurous, a genius even at 16, passionate, strong (well in a comedic sense especially when hitting Roshi) and had something that her daughter doesn’t seem to have; drive.

Bulma might have been deceptive, selfish and spoiled but when she saw something in life that she wanted, she went for it!

That was the whole reason she went to hunt down the Dragonballs; to get the prince of her dreams (and she got it many years later!).

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Bulla’s only drive is to shop at the mall…

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Now if you want to talk about genetics similar to how people assume how Goten and Trunks were able to go SS very easily when they were young because Goku was most likely in his Full Power Super Saiyan form when he had sex with Chi-Chi.

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In Trunks’ case, it is kind of likely that Vegeta WAS able to go Super Saiyan when he was born or if he wasn’t he sure as heck was very close to it, he had the power level to go Super Saiyan but just not the right motivation.

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Let’s go down that route; Vegeta was able to go Super Saiyan 2 at the time of Bulla’s conception while Gohan was able to do the same BUT since he had his “Mystic abilities” that MIGHT point to Pan being conceived while having a father more powerful than Bulla’s but that is debatable depending on how you view the Mystic abilities playing a part in conception vs. Super Saiyan.

Because if you view it that way, that would mean Goten has FAR more potential than Trunks considering Full Power Super Saiyan Goku was WAY more powerful than Vegeta was prepping for the Android Saga or if he was in fact a Super Saiyan at the time of Trunks’ conception.

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But I digress, seeing that Gohan’s Mystic abilities would trump Vegeta’s power that would either give Pan more potential that Bulla or at least even up the playing field since she is 25% less Saiyan than Bulla.

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True, Bulla again does have more Saiyan blood BUT only one of her parents is a fighter; the 100% Saiyan Vegeta.

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While her mother is just a human.

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Videl is too but she spent most of her life studying martial arts and though she might not powerful by Saiyan standards or by the standards set by Human Z-Fighters like Krillin, Yamacha or Tien. She is still in the ranking of the top non-powered human.

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True, she can control her Ki for flight and short range Ki blasts but she doesn’t have super human strength or even the power to compete with Roshi (base power 139).

That does give Pan a bit more of a warrior/fighter heritage if you want to put it that way.

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And most likely, true to her father’s power she might have the potential to experience incredible fits of rage boosting her power greatly.

This was seen when she was fighting; (here are some examples)

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Great Ape Baby Vegeta

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Natt on M-2.

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I wouldn’t count the fight with Haze Shenron, honestly that was the only time I felt she was CLOSE to going Super Saiyan just by how pissed she was getting due to being insulted. The main reason she was not able to transform was most likely due to the energy sucking pollution by the 2-star dragon. It was probably what prevented her from getting her Ki in control to make the transformation; remember Goku couldn’t even go SS while in the area.

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Overall, I don’t think that Pan’s power level was enough to compete with #18 who is still arguably the strongest female character in the series.

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Not counting Zangya since she was in Bojack Unbound and that was non-canon. But GT wasn’t canon either so…oh well who cares

But if she continued her training and found that right motivation this was sure to happen:

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According to most sources, it was mainly due to the creator(s) of the show never really drawing illustrations. So, there was really no telling what a female Super Saiyan would look like.

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A great moment was in “Family Bonds” when she offered her power to help restore Goku’s Super Saiyan 4 energy. Hercule mentioned that she was a little girl not a Super Saiyan only for Kibito Kai to mention that she certainly has the heart of a Super Saiyan!

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Aside from genetics and whatnot, I think that these two could not only become more powerful than Goten and Trunks but I feel that they could become Super Saiyans faster than they did.

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Why?

A sad fact of life that all men will hear at least once in their lives while they are children; girls mature faster than boys!

Seriously, that might do a lot in terms of helping these girls develop their abilities faster than Goten and Trunks!

Don’t believe me?

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Well do you remember what 4-year-old Pan did to her 17-year-old uncle Goten at the World Martial Arts Tournament?

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Yeah the pictures pretty much speak for themselves…

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Now just because girls mature faster, that doesn’t necessarily mean that their power could exceed Goten and Trunks but in order for that theory to be made into fact, the boys would have to continue training instead of goofing off in times of peace…

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I mean we got a “ladies’ man” in Goten.

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What am I doing with my life?

Trunks was running the family business for Bulma.

Now, if Pan and Bulla both trained hard then something tells me by the time they reached 7 or 8 (same ages of Trunks and Goten in the Buu Saga), they MIGHT be more powerful than them.

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Remember Gohan’s boastful comment when he told Goten that he was the youngest Super Saiyan in existence? He was shocked to see Goten (age 7) already has the ability to transform, but now imagine the look on his face to see his record broken by two little girls!

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In Son Goku & His Friends Return, it is estimated that both Goten and Trunks (base form) have power levels around 530,000 since the two soldiers from Frieza’s empire who have taken over since Frieza’s demise are said by Tarble to have the same power as “Frieza did back them” most likely referring to his 1st form because that would have been the only form that Tarble knew about.

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Going by those numbers, turning Super Saiyan would make both Goten and Trunks’ power level go to 26,500,000. Remember they were kids not men like their fathers when they turned Super Saiyan so that number is understandable; their dads didn’t reach those power levels until they were in their adult years (mid-20s for Goku and Vegeta was over 30!).

Now aside from female Super Saiyans there is something else that the girls would have to accomplish to further challenge the power of their male counterparts;

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FUSION!

That would be incredible to see; a female Fusion Dance warrior!

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Seriously, I really hope that in the “revamp” of the series (if there is one or continuation) they explore the possibilities of making Bulla strong and do better with Pan’s development as a female fighter.

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Also take into consideration that Pan appeared to be the only living Z-Fighter 100 years after the events of the Baby Saga. There is no telling what kind of powers she achieved before becoming elderly.

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It was a real shame we didn’t see more father/daughter moments between Gohan and Pan.

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Or Bulla and Vegeta…

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Not to mention any brother/sister moments with Trunks. Most of his screen time was him being seen with Pan.

What do you think?