Tyler Perry’s The Haves and the Have Nots Theory: Katheryn Is Dreaming (Redux)

By Jeremy Carden


Well Part 1 of Season 3 has come to an end, and it left viewers with quite a cliffhanger! Speculating about whether or not David is going to be burned alive by his own wife is going to keep fans guessing until the show makes it return.

My guess is that everyone is going to be shocked that my first blog after the finale; is a blog that is NOT about the finale.

This is a redux about a blog I wrote last July involving a very interesting plot twist about the entire show that is the Haves and the Have Nots. If you would like to read my original blog on this subject, you can do so by clicking here.

Anyone who has followed my HAHN Theory Blogs since my first one knows that my theories are a joint effort between myself and my mother.


One night, she was randomly flipping through the channels and got to the OWN Network. The funny thing was that we were getting the channel for free because of the Dish Network specials that included free stations for about a week or so. When she got to the OWN Network, it was the first episode of the Haves and the Have Nots! After watching the show, the two of us were hooked!


With that being said, this is a theory that she came up with because my mom knows about a show called Dallas. I recall maybe watching a couple of episodes, but I was a child meaning that I can’t recall the plot and characters like my mom can.


The interesting theory that my mom created is the plot of the HAHN being nothing more than a mere dream. A story depicted in the mind of none other than Katheryn Cryer!

Keep in mind that I did help pull this theory together with dialogue, scenes and hints from the show during a discussion with my mom. However, if this theory happens to be correct or this blog goes viral; my mom deserves most of the credit. Without her, I would never have thought about this enough to make a blog about it.

At this point, some of you might be ready to close out of this blog, or write this theory off as nothing more than a ridiculous post. I encourage you to continue reading before making a final decision.

If Katheryn Cryer has been dreaming the plot of the HAHN, then when does this dream start?

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That is the question many readers are probably asking at this point, and it truly is a good one. Our theory suggests that Katheryn began her dream while she was in the hospital. With all of the craziness of the show, a lot of fans may have forgotten about Katheryn’s battle with breast cancer.

Originally, I thought it might have been after she had some weed (compliments of Hanna) to help her cope with the cancer. In the long run, the hospital scenario was more believable when looking at details towards our theory.

There are a few things that need to be addressed because they are important to the overall plot of the HAHN.


  1. Katheryn’s video will

Before going into surgery, Katheryn asked Hanna to record a video of her will. She was unsure if she would make it out of the cancer surgery alive, so she asked Hanna to do her this one favor.

The will states that her husband (Jim Cryer) is not to receive a single penny of her family’s fortune. In terms of her children (Wyatt and Amanda), both are to receive $12 million. There is also information in her will for her future grandchildren. If anyone tries to fight the will; they will not receive a single dime of their money!

She then says that if her will is not found immediately after her death, her money will be donated to the Cancer Research Center of Savannah. After she is done, she tells Hanna to hold onto that video will. If something were to happen to her, Hanna was instructed to give the will to Veronica.


  1. Hanna was Katheryn’s rock

Just as the apostle Peter was named as “the rock” by Jesus, Hanna was Katheryn’s solid foundation during her time of need. Aside from the doctors, Hanna was the ONLY person that even knew that Katheryn was battling breast cancer. She even signed into Mercy Hospital under a false name!

Her “friend” Veronica and Katheryn’s family was not aware of what was going on. They were all so preoccupied with their own lives and “problems” that they did not even notice Katheryn was fighting for her life right under their noses.

As Katheryn told Hanna, Veronica is a “friend” to her in order to increase her own popularity. Veronica never seemed to listen to Katheryn’s problems or to help her out; she only came around to tell Katheryn about her own issues.

Wyatt was in rehab and fighting his own inner demons, and Amanda had her own struggles to face. Her issues stemmed from wanting to drop out of law school and go into fashion design. Being around Candace just increased her hostilities towards her parents, and Katheryn was nothing more than a “villain” in her eyes. Finally, we all know that Jim was not concerned in the least because his attention was on Candace and running for governor.

Hanna was the one who keep her going because she even tells Katheryn that if she gives up then the cancer has already won. It was great that Hanna had already gone through the cancer and survived. That meant she was the perfect person to help walk Katheryn through the illness.


  1. Katheryn tries to hold everything together

This point really takes place after her stay in the hospital and battle with cancer. It was when Hanna sat down with Katheryn and told her that Candace was her daughter. She tells Hanna that she has tried her entire life to fix problems and be the glue that held the Cryer family together. After nearly losing to cancer, she just wants to sit back and watching everything fall apart. She was tired of trying to help those who did not want help.

Jim’s new attitude towards his life mirrors that of Katheryn at this point because in recent episodes, he says that he is tired. Like Katheryn, he is willing to deal with life no matter where the chips may fall.

Now where can a person literally just let go and forget about the consequences of their actions? A dream! I’m not saying that you can’t do that in real life, but Katheryn literally went through a near-death experience. It makes sense for her to just;


The point of the dream beginning most likely takes place after Katheryn tells Hanna to get the nurse. They were having a conversation about Hanna’s meeting with Veronica because she was helping Benny get out of prison for drug possession in Candace’s car.


Katheryn is covering her mouth and rolls on her side in bed. Hanna’s is rubbing her shoulder because she is trying to comfort her friend.

In the next episode, the opening scene after Jim and Candace have their shower throw down shows Hanna giving Katheryn some final words of encouragement before she is carried by the nurse into surgery.


Overall, we can say that the dream take place either right before Katheryn goes into surgery or right after when she attempts to leave the hospital. There she comes face to face with Jim, Wyatt and Amanda. Everything else after that moment is a dream that Katheryn is experiencing.

When you think about it, this scenario does make sense because you will notice how aloof Katheryn is being about everything that is taking place around her.


For someone who has just gotten out of surgery, she was playing it off well. She was in an extreme amount of pain, and this was seen when she was struggling to get out of bed. What stunned me was how quickly she got out of her hospital gown and into her dress. She was not about to leave the hospital in a wheelchair, and Hanna held her up as they walked down the hallway. They come face to face with Wyatt and Jim as they are walking Amanda out of the hospital.


From there, Katheryn is in bed for the next couple of episodes because she is still recovering from the surgery. Now the thing my mom pointed out was that we never see her go back to the hospital for checkups or anything. Katheryn did tell Hanna that she had a wig on right before filming the video will. In terms of breast implants, we never hear that mentioned again after Hanna told Katheryn that she got some herself after her battle with cancer.

One of the biggest comebacks to this theory by readers and fans of the show has involved the new characters introduced in the show. I mean how could Katheryn know about parts of the story that she is not present for or people that she has never met? One word; dream!

If something is a dream then it is not supposed to make sense! Well maybe not ALL of it is supposed to make sense. Sometimes people have dreams that are a representation of the things that they would like to happen or would like to forget. Even so, there are some dreams that turn out to be premonitions of future events.

That makes the most sense to me about Katheryn because of her life. Think about it this way;


  1. She knows about her children’s self-destructive tendencies

Amanda was suicidal and would harm herself (through cuts or pills) whenever she felt ignored or abused. Wyatt was addicted to drugs and alcohol; after his horrific experience at bible camp with a priest that was “touching him.”

A mother’s worst fear with children like that would be that they would harm themselves or others around them. Funny this is that Amanda almost kills Professor Cannon and Wyatt kills Little Lizzie (nearly killing Benny as well). Everything comes around full circle when Amanda kills herself and Wyatt confesses to the hit-and-run charges.


  1. She knew about Jim’s affairs and that he would do anything to get his way

Is it too far of a stretch to assume that she would not think that Jim would still run for office despite all of the skeletons in the Cryer family closet?

Not to mention she gave her famous #9 speech to Candace before going into the hospital. So, we know she knew of the other 8 women that Jim has had an affair with.


  1. She knew Jeffery was gay

As Jim told David early on in Season 2, “So what if your son is gay? Everyone knows about it David!” She just knew that she was not going to be the one to tell Veronica that Jeffery was gay, but after Amanda’s death she did not hold her tongue about it.


  1. It is clear that she knew about Celine’s children by Jim

She reveals this before beating Celine out of her house because of the “job security” that she believes she has with Jim.

These are just a few points that I wanted to mention because Katheryn knew about them before she went into surgery. This means that it would make sense for her dream to cover things like Jeffery coming out to his parents or Candace’s ongoing affair with Jim (which turned into a war).


One scene from a recent episode that truly makes me feel like this theory is legit took place at Hanna’s house. Remember when Katheryn finally visits Hanna’s home? They go inside to talk about recent events, and Katheryn has nowhere else to turn but to her old friend.

Her dialogue is what truly made me have an “Aha!” moment;

Hanna: How are you holding up?

Katheryn: Like a ton of bricks that dropped into the ocean…I don’t even know how I got here.”

*I’m only covering the parts of the dialogue that standout to my point*

Katheryn: I don’t have any friends Hanna.

Hanna: Yes you do, you’ve got Miss Veronica.

Katheryn: She’s not a friend; she’s just one of those people who is friendly because it’s good for her image. If I were in a battle…she’s not someone I would call. She’s certainly not equipped to deal with this.

Hanna: I see.

*Now here is the line that caught my attention* 


Katheryn: My daughter’s dead and I don’t know what to do. It’s so strange…I know I’m alive, I’m standing, but I feel like I’m above myself watching all of this play out. I’m awake right?

Hanna: Yes, you are.

Katheryn: What do I do?


Hanna then talks about prayer being a comfort, and that Katheryn has her even if she has no one else. Doesn’t this sound eerily familiar to Katheryn’s battle with cancer?

Think about how Hanna is Katheryn’s only form of comfort during an extreme time of need. This involves Amanda’s death, and before it involved Katheryn’s near-death experience. Hanna is a much needed form of spiritual support and guidance for Katheryn.

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Out of body experiences do occur in real life, and most sources define it as;

“An experience that typically involves a sensation of floating outside one’s body and, in some cases, perceiving one’s physical body from a place outside one’s body (autoscopy).”

This typically occurs when someone is going through a near-death experience, surgery or sleep. Katheryn seems to fit the bill for all 3 categories because battling cancer put her in a near-death experience. Not to mention, during surgery she would have to be asleep!


Again, just take note of the fact that Katheryn has been in the show but not a major character. She has taken a backseat while Jim, Candace and the Harringtons have really been carrying the story along. True, she was scared to death (no pun intended) while Wyatt was coping with the hit-and-run, and then after Amanda died it was as if she was put into shock.


Some could also say that her getting physical with Wyatt and Celine could be a representation of her fighting for her actual life.


As a child, I remember that Tommy Oliver was doing this in “Fighting Spirit” in Power Rangers Dino Thunder. During that episode, Tommy was put into a coma from trying to get out of his invisible state due to his dino gem. While in a coma, he was fighting his past ranger personas. In the end, he woke up and it was all a test to see how strong his will to live truly was.

If you did not watch Power Rangers as a child like I did, then that comparison just went completely over your head. However, the end result is the same; a person in a near-dear experience tries to fight for their life!


My mom thinks that after the funeral, Katheryn is going to snap out of this dream and wake up! Another angle that the show could take involves everything crumbling to pieces. I mean Jim has literally given up on his conquest for the Governor’s mansion and Candace. Wyatt is well on his way to prison, and Veronica has lost it all as well.


Celine has something up her sleeve that we have not seen yet, but she has been kicked out the Cryer mansion. I just can’t wrap my mind around it, but at some point she has to wake up! It could be in Part 2 of Season 3, or at the very end of the show. Either Katheryn wakes up to make some major changes in her life, or she actually dies in surgery and the video of her will gets carried out.


What do you all think of this theory? Keep in mind that I did mention the show Dallas had a similar plotline. It took place during Season 9 (“Dream Season”) when Pam Ewing was dreaming the events of the entire season!


Most viewers also say that the “Who Shot J.R.?” mystery was similar to Amanda’s suicide. I must say that my mom and I still have our doubts about it being a suicide, but since no other evidence has been mentioned; we can do nothing but speculate at this point.


Remember that there have been no reports of the autopsy that involves her death tattoo or her possibly carrying a baby (from her being raped by Professor Cannon). Also there was the “Who Done It” plot after J.R. was shot. There were many suspects who were possibly guilty of the crime just like there were many suspects of Amanda’s death.

WatchMojo.com put together a Top 10 list of TV shows that had episodes where it was nothing more than a dream. After watching it, I truly began to notice a similar trend when compared to the HAHN. It was not surprising to see the “Dream Season” of Dallas made it on the list!


After reading my first blog about the subject, some fans admitted to being furious that this could be a reality. Some viewers could not believe that Tyler Perry would pull such a trick. However, you have to remember that this is a TV show and anything can happen! Viewers might feel “cheated” if everything that they have been watched turned out to be a dream.


If the show has had you hooked, or if you have felt feelings whether they are anger or love for a character then you have not been cheated. I’m sure that a lot of viewers have invested a lot of time and excitement into this show. Who cares if it turns out to be a dream? If you have loved it so far then it should not matter. It would be a great way for things to come around full circle.

Is the show a dream? When will Katheryn wake up? Is she dead or is she alive? When will her video recording of her will be brought up again? What if Katheryn wakes up, and we get to see Amanda brought back to the show? If the show is revealed to be a dream, would you continue to watch it?

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