Tyler Perry’s The Haves and The Have Nots Theory: Will “Oscar” Return?

By Jeremy Carden

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January 5th will be here before you know it, and I will try to fill in the gap as much as I can with my blogs! I have to help keep the HAHN community on their toes while thinking about what we were left with after the Season 3 finale!

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The topic of this blog will focus on Brandon; the asset recovery agent better known as Oscar. He swept Candace off of her feet this season, but then pulled the rug from under her feet as well!

Despite his name being Brandon, I am still going to refer to him as Oscar during a majority of this blog because he was called Oscar for almost every episode that he was seen in before the finale.

My #1 question when thinking about this topic is not about Oscar or what he does. I mentioned in a blog awhile back that he was working for David, and I was right about that!

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It really is not a surprise that he did what he did because we know that David was going to pull one over on Candace at some point. Remember that he told her that he stalks and studies his prey before pouncing on them!

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Even though he got Jim’s money back (really Katheryn’s money); their friendship is null and void.

I am curious why Oscar decided to go to Candace’s house after he had already retrieved the money from her bank account.

After their phone conversation, Oscar should have known better than to go to the home of a black woman that he had just screwed over!

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I think the funniest part was the fact that Candace and Oscar had this lovely communication together. Candace was really feeling him, and you could tell that their “relationship” was changing her for the better. She still had that independent sass, but she let him into her heart which was a first for her.

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Then to hear her go ghetto over the phone when she “knew” that he had something to do with her empty bank account, I was literally rolling because the bad bitch had returned!

Brandon might have dealt with many women in the past while doing his job, but it seems clear that he has never dealt with a true black woman before. Seriously, if I heard a woman’s voice like that over the phone, the LAST thing that I would do is go over to her house!

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You knew that she was not playing about her money! I mean the last time that they saw each other; you could feel the chemistry between the two. Then he sent her all of those flowers to show that he missed her.

When he came into the house, Candace had a knife behind her back! Then after some verbal blows from each side, it seemed that Oscar was able to confirm that Candace’s money was not really her money after all.

Alright, so he said that while she was sleeping; he was able to know everything there was to know about her by going through her computer. Then that line about her being busy as an escort to make that much money must have worn her out…

Man….

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Wow, I could not believe he said that! Even though he said the sex was great, he just kept going on about how easy she made everything in order to find out who she REALLY was.

Then Candace went for the stab, Oscar caught her hand and wrestled her to the couch!

My reaction:

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I was curious if he was trying to rape her on the couch, I mean if you look at the position they were in…

She kept screaming for him to get off of him, and he kept saying that the sex was great. Perhaps it was just to overpower her to the point that she could not stab him.

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Then a mystery man pulled Oscar off of Candace, pinned him against the wall, punched him and grabbed Candace while she was trying to escape.

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The first time I watched the episode, I was thinking that it was Jeffery because it was a black hand that grabbed Oscar’s shoulder. However, it was Candace’s worst nightmare; Quincy!

After the assault, Oscar sprinted out of there while he left Candace to her fate. Then he went to David and Jim’s campaign off to deliver the information to David.

He tells him all about the expenses and information that he received from her computer before departing.

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I do not think that we have seen the last of “Brandon.” Considering that Candy Cane does not let go of those who have screwed her over, I think Oscar had better fly to another continent to have a chance of escaping Candace’s wrath. Honestly, I do not even think that would be enough…

Her attention is now on Jim in order to reignite the flame signifying the war between them. The same can be said for him because he told David that after his family situation is handled, he will make Candace pay for Amanda’s death.

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Basically, these two are angry at the wrong people! Candace should be furious at David for screwing her over, and Jim should be furious at Professor Cannon for raping his daughter. He did manage to have his executed, but that is still not enough because he wants Candace to pay.

Needless to say, these 2 will once again collide during Season 4. However, both of them have a lot on their plates to deal with now before another round of their battle can begin.

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For starters, Candace has no money and no job! Not to mention there is a “dead body” in the middle of her floor!

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Jim has just reclaimed her mantle as a potential front-runner for governor, but he has just been taken into police custody by the D.A.

They both have a lot to take care of before they can attack each other, but there is no telling who will be caught in their crossfire this time!

Where does this leave Oscar?

I really do not see why he would return, but just like Quincy “dying”…I think there is more to the story that we have yet to discover.

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My guess as to why he returned to Candace’s house was simply to keep playing the game that he was Oscar, and to get the verbal confirmation that Candace was a con-artist like he is (well that is his professional career).

These two are actually more alike than they might care to admit. Maybe they were made for each other! However, I still would not have recommended going back to her house especially after he had gotten the money!

One possible reason that he might show up again is if he is named as the person who murdered Quincy! I’m just saying that unless Candace and Jeffery can discard the body; they will need some sort of alibi!

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There is a dead body in the house, and they are both drenched in blood. True, Jeffery committed the murder as an act of self-defense, but there is still a lot to resolve with that.

Candace might try to pin Oscar as the culprit because Jeffrey knew he was the only other person that was coming over to Candace’s house that day before he got there. However, “Oscar” was a false persona so if she tried to pin it on him…that might prove to be difficult for a man who technically doesn’t exist.

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Do you think that Oscar/Brandon will return in Season 4? Will Candace get revenge on him for taking back the money that was never really her money to begin with?

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Dragon Ball Super: Will Captain Ginyu Return?

By Jeremy Carden

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I don’t know about you, but I am actually excited that we will see the Purple Power Ranger…I mean leader of the Ginyu Force make a return to the main series!

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Seriously, with all of the poses that the team did, you would not be considered a fool if you thought they were the Power Rangers.

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Dragon Ball Super has made a couple of slight changes so far to the Resurrection F movie, and one that has caught the attention of fans was the appearance of Ginyu Frog after Frieza was brought back to life.

There is even an upcoming episode title that mentions Ginyu and his trademark Body Change technique! This will be the 22nd episode titled “Tagoma is it play a more power-ups to change the Ginyu and body.

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Basically, it has all but been confirmed that Tagoma will somehow get swapped with Ginyu.

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In the anime filler, Bulma created a device which allowed Frog Ginyu to speak clear English. This led to her having her body switched with Ginyu because he communicated “Change!” outside of the native tongue of a Namekian Frog.

How will he change with Tagoma?

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My own personal theory is that he somehow changes bodies with the nameless frog solider (only referred to as Subordinate) in Frieza’s army who took orders from Sorbet in the anime/manga/movie because he is a humanoid frog.

It would not surprise me if he could speak a language understood only be frogs, and Ginyu changes with him before getting to Tagoma.

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In any case, we will see Ginyu again with is enough for me! I wonder how far his character will be utilized in the war with Frieza. I doubt he will make that much of a difference such as switching bodies with the likes of Goku or Beerus.

That would be interesting to see…

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You never know where the series is going to take things!

I did find it interesting that Tagoma expressed more doubts about Frieza’s usefulness to their army by his revival due to his less than impressive appearance.

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We got to see a brief flashback of Tagoma on one of Frieza’s many planets, and he saw the space tyrant speaking with Dodoria and Ginyu. He only saw Frieza for a brief moment, but was not impressed at all.

Considering that he was not killed by Frieza in the anime like he was in the manga/movie, I am glad to see his role given a bit more depth in the series.

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Ironic that he was unimpressed by the midget Frieza, and he will eventually be turned into a tiny frog!

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Apparently, he will train with Frieza during the 4 months before his arrival on earth. This will make Tagoma a very powerful warrior, and he will fight with Gohan before swapping bodies with Ginyu!

This could be the reason why Ginyu picked him to swap bodies with because Tagoma had become the most powerful warrior in Frieza’s army!

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I wonder if that was how Shisami got so powerful in the movie which made him able to fight toe-to-toe with Piccolo…

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Hopefully, we will get some background information on Frieza’s training through flashbacks or something!

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What kind of role do you think Ginyu will play during Dragon Ball Super? Will he swap bodies with one of the Saiyans or Gods?

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Pokemon XY & Z: Can Ash Defeat Alain?

By Jeremy Carden

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Awhile ago, I made a blog about Ash and Alain facing each other in a battle of Mega Evolution! The suggested battle pitted Mega Charizard Y (Ash’s Charizard) vs. Mega Charizard X (Alain’s Charizard)!

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Based on the new opening for the XY & Z series, it appears that Ash will indeed battle Alain at some point in the series. This will most likely occur doing the Team Flare arc.

In the final episode of the Mega Evolution Special series, Alain went on another journey to figure a way to help Mairin’s Chespin. During the episode, it helped the Zygrade Core escape from Team Flare’s experiments.

However, it somehow fell ill after absorbing some of the energy created by the experiment on Zygrade.

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Alain left in a rage with the goal of helping to finish the Mega Evolution Machine to help Chespin in order to make Mairin happy again.

With that being said, if Ash does run into Alain while trying to stop Team Flare from reaching their goal; they will clash!

Fans have speculated that Ash will fight Mega Charizard X with Greninja. It will lose to both Alain AND Sawyer’s Sceptile (or Mega Sceptile).

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The opening seems to suggest that a rift will come between Ash and Greninja from the back-to-back losses.

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From there, the two will reconcile creating their once unbreakable bond which will give birth to Ash-Greninja!

It would be a cool thing to see Ash use Greninja against Mega Charizard X because it seems to be the Kalos Pokemon that Ash has the strongest bond with.

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True, Talonfalme evolved in order to save Ash from Moltres. Then Ash almost DIED trying to save Talonflame from falling into a volcano! However, I think it is safe to say that the bond between Ash and his frog is stronger!

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So, it will be up against the Alain’s Charizard; the Pokemon that he has the strongest bond with.

If you ask me, I would much rather see Ash use his Charizard against Alain because at some point there HAS to be a battle between both of its Mega Evolutions.

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Ash-Greninja would be best suited to battling Sawyer’s Mega Sceptile because those two had a rivalry since their pre-evolved forms.

With informed revealed about the next few episodes, we know that Ash will finally get Greninja in about 3 episodes.

It is unknown if Ash-Greninja will truly make its debut in this episode battling Bisharp. When I say that, I’m referring to whether or not it will officially transform and Greninja will have full access to that power.

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Compare it to the brief foreshadowing of their “fusion” during the finale of Ash’s battle with Olympia.

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Now if I had to guess what would happen, I’d say that Ash and Greninja “merge” to defeat Bisharp due to Greninja losing during the first portion of the battle. From there, Ash-Greninja appears to seal the victory!

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However, it is unable to hold the form or remember how to use it after the battle. After losing to Alain (and perhaps Sawyer), the bond between trainer and Pokemon will slightly diminish. Then they will patch up the holes in their relationship for an even stronger bond.

Afterwards, Ash-Greninja is a form that can be freely used in battle. Just a theory, but I am sticking to it!

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Based on the opening, it appears that it will learn how to use Water Shuriken after evolving.

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It is seen using a blade-like move against Mega Sceptile’s Leaf Blade so it is either Cut or Aerial Ace.

What appears to be Aqua Jet cannot be legit because none of the Froakie line can legally learn it in the games. Perhaps it comes from its form change, and that allows it to become surrounded in water like Aqua Jet. I can’t wait to find out!

Overall, I think that it would be an interesting battle between it and Mega Charizard X, but I would much rather see Mega Charizard Y as Alain’s opponent.

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We can assume that these two will battle because Alain is still in the dark about Team Flare’s TRUE intentions with the Mega Evolution Machine.

If Alain figures out Lysandre’s true plan prior to the conclusion of his battle with Ash, we won’t be given a true winner. I would not want that to happen because this battle would be too good not to have a conclusion!

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In the end, I could see Bonnie and Puni-chan helping out Mairin’s Chespin making everyone happy as a result.

However, the battle is what I really want to focus on. I’m pretty sure Alain and Ash would join forces to stop Lysandre in the end!

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Then Alain would make things right with Professor Sycamore who would forgive him because he was lied to in order to assist Team Flare without even knowing it.

Who do you think would win in a battle?

That is actually a difficult question to answer because both trainers have very powerful Charizards in their arsenal.

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I think the biggest advantage for Alain would be that his Charizard has been in possession of its mega form for quite some time, and that means it is far more experienced in terms of how to utilize its true power.

I am not saying that Ash’s Charizard would not be able to get used to Mega Charizard Y quickly, but you have to admit that it might take a little bit of getting used to.

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The battle would be intense, and I could see Ash’s Charizard on the receiving end of some powerful blows.

We know that Alain’s Mega Charizard X has the following move set:

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  • Flamethrower

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  • Steel Wing

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  • Blast Burn

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  • Dragon Claw

It gets STAB from Flamethrower, Dragon Claw and Blast Burn by being a Fire/Dragon type. It has the Tough Claws ability which boosts the power of physical contact moves; Dragon Claw and Steel Wing.

Ash’s Charizard has the following moves:

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  • Flamethrower

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  • Wing Attack

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  • Dragon Tail

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  • Slash

I was sad to see its moves reduced to these 4 during the Unova series. Knowing Charizard, it will have new moves if it appears in Kalos.

The Drought ability as a Mega Charizard Y would only benefit it by increasing Flamethrower’s power, and if learns how to use Solarbeam. However, against a Fire/Dragon opponent…it would not be much if any use at all.

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Not to mention the sunny weather would increase the power of Mega Charizard X’s Flamethrower and Blast Burn!

Dragon Tail would be its only chance at doing some super-effective damage.

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Too bad it doesn’t know how to use Seismic Toss anymore…

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That was as disappointing as Pikachu losing Volt Tackle for Electro Ball…

I am not going to completely count Ash’s Charizard completely out based on their respective move sets. Ash has been able to come out of some pretty impossible odds before despite a type disadvantage.

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It would be a good match because Ash’s Charizard trained with more powerful Charizards in the Charicific Valley in order to get stronger.

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Alain’s trained by battling Mega Evolved Pokemon after Mega Evolved Pokemon! In the fourth Mega Evolution Special, it defeated 10 Mega Evolved Pokemon in a row including the Mega Houndoom owned my Elite 4 Member Malva!

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Not to mention that they have both had experiences battling Legendary Pokemon! Ash’s Charizard has battled the likes of Entei (an illusion), Articuno and Regice.

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Alain’s has battled against the Weather Trio in their Mega/Primal Evolution forms! Despite losing against all 3 (while Ash just barely defeated only 1 of the legends that it went up against with Charizard), it is still very powerful!

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These 2 Charizards were made to battle one another! Overall, I could see Alain winning due to his Charizard having a better type combination.

However, we know that when backed into a corner; Ash will come up with an off the walk tactic in order to obtain victory.

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Who do you think would win between the two? Will Ash-Greninja battle Alain’s Charizard or will it be Ash’s Charizard?

Tyler Perry’s The Haves and the Have Nots Theory: Jim’s Campaign Speech

By Jeremy Carden

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This blog is not really about theories, but it is a breakdown of Jim’s campaign speech in the Season 3 finale. The speech was Jim’s way of taking Celine’s assault on his public persona by flipping the script!

He basically used his exposed affair and outside children to his benefit to return to the positive side of the voters. Love or hate him, you have to admit that Jim knows how to play a crowd!

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During his speech, the bloodbath that he ordered had finally begun.

The only victim who made it out alive was Veronica, and it could be argued that it was because she and the rest of the “Haves” clan got arrested by Jennifer.

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You could compare this to when Candace had Jim kidnapped the night that Amanda was going to shoot someone in the house. Remember that Jim was “Moe” in her twisted game, and that most likely meant that he was the one who would have gotten killed.

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Jim had one of the killers hiding out in Veronica house, and when she came into her new home; she was going to be shot without anyone knowing. In a strange twist of fate, Veronica should be grateful that she was taken into police custody instead of being killed.

However, it has yet to be determined if the sniper will still be hiding out in her house until she does come home. Seriously, who think that Cryers and Harringtons WON’T get out of their current situation?

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Moving onto the speech, it was one thing that Jim was practically telling one lie after the next, but I would have to say the other character’s made this scene. If only there were thought bubbles coming out from Veronica, Katheryn and David during the speech!

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You could tell how they felt about Jim’s words based on their facial expressions. What I will do from here is breakdown Jim’s speech, and talk about each subject during his time at the podium. I will talk about what Jim says, the character’s reactions to his words and the killings.

I had to listen to this speech about 6 times in order to type it out correctly, but it was worth it for the purpose of discussing it with my faithful readers. Everything marked in bold represents Jim’s lines during the speech.

Here is how the speech started:

As I’m sure you can imagine, I’ve had to think long and hard about what I’m going to say up here today. But before I say it, I would like to first thank my lovely wife Katheryn for staying beside me all of these years. And of course our daughter in her absence here although never ever far from my heart, and our son Wyatt.

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From the start, you can tell that it appears that Jim is about to announce that he will abandon his run for office. He was trying to start off on a positive note by acknowledging his wife who had been with him despite the affair, and then point out his children by Katheryn. Overall, it seems that he was trying to gain sympathy before getting into the meat of his speech.

I need to let you know that I am not a perfect man not by any means. I am a man who has made a lot of mistakes, but I am a man who owns his mistakes.

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During this portion of the speech, we get to see Terrell murdered by having his throat slit by a prison guard.

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Afterwards, Toxic is held down by several guards as he gets stabbed to death in the chest.

The line “A man who has made a lot of mistakes, but I am a man who owns his mistakes.” could be linked to Jim’s mistake of putting Wyatt in a “fake prison” setting, and then not listening to Katheryn’s warnings about getting him out of there.

Remember that if he had taken Wyatt out of prison when Katheryn told him to, Toxic would not have been able to get in Wyatt’s sex to sexually assault him.

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Jim “owned” his mistake by having Toxic killed, but that still did not take away Wyatt’s emotional scars from the incident.

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Yes, it is true. I had 2 sons with a woman that I used to love. This is a woman who was once kind and gentle. A woman who saw me through some very rough times during my marriage when my wife and I were going through some very difficult periods.

Yes, it is true that when I broke it off with this woman I was not there for her chi-…my children.

This is something that I have to live with, something that I have to deal with, and something that I will be sorry for the rest of my life. My only hope is that one day I can get to really meet these fine young men.

One day I can begin to right that wrong, and who knows perhaps even maybe be able to be some sort of a influence for good in their lives.

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Celine was watching this part of the speech intensely on television from her home. My one question is whether or not she is buying what Jim was saying. He had just came to her house to have sex with her as revenge for what she did to him by exposing his affair and his outside children on television.

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Makes you think about whether or not she will still trying to get “even” with Jim because she thinks he will really try to get to know Little Jimmy and Carlos. However, you have to remember that he is giving that “little bastard” a very small amount of child support.

My heart aches…my mind races when I think of all of the things that I have done wrong. 

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The scene of Professor Cannon being killed is probably my favorite of the 3 killings that took place. I am not “happy” because he got what he deserved for raping Amanda. However, it is the scene itself that had me smiling.

It was the fact that it was planned so beautifully! You get his attention by having a young attractive female with her hood up playing the role of the damsel in distress. She was parked right next to his car, and was pretending to have some car trouble.

Knowing that he was attracted to young women, Jim had it planned to catch the professor off-guard. Something else to note about Jim’s speech was that the killings and whatnot going on were personify his lines.

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For example, he said that “his heart ached.” This lined up perfectly with Cannon being shot a few times in the chest by the woman.

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We move onto the police at Benny’s towing company to take away the Black Sedan. That lines up with Jim’s like about how his mind races about everything that he has done wrong.

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He was wrong for trying to cover up Wyatt’s hit-and-run charges, and now it is eventually coming back to bite him!

Then he gets into the part of the speech where he is done feeling sorry for himself, and tries to get the public to see that he has done good despite his many mistakes.

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But you know what? I have also done some things, not very many, but some things right. And with your permission I would like to touch on just a few of those right now.

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As a judge, I have managed to put some of this state’s worst criminals behind bars forever. Ironically, Veronica got Quincy (one of the state’s worst criminals) on the other side of those prison bars…and then Benny did the same thing.

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I helped build a community center for the elderly. With my wife’s charity, we’ve dug wells in Africa, we’ve build hospitals, we’ve built homeless shelters, we’ve built schools.

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At this point, Maggie is both surprised and frustrated that Jim has not thrown in the towel. Not only that, he is truly working over the crowd in his favor.

We were on the front line of the earthquake in Haiti. We’ve spent millions of dollars helping underprivileged children. We have been instrumental in bringing medical supplies to the farthest reaches of the farthest continents.

Yes, I am a man who has made many mistakes, but I am a god-fearing man. I am a man who goes to church. I am a man who when he makes a mistake he comes out and he says it unless he is blindsided on television by someone who has an agenda.

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Katheryn’s face during this scene was priceless! It is important to mention that the ONLY time we see this man in church was during Little Lizzie’s funeral!

He got a taste of the power of Jesus when Hanna comforted him after he told her to leave his house for having a cleaning crew clean Amanda’s room.

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And her agenda is simply to destroy me, but I will not let that happen because I am only human. And I hope that you will not let that happen either. That is why I am here today to ask you, no no forget that I am here to plead with you; don’t let this other agenda win vote for Jim Cryer come election day.

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I also want to mention that Veronica’s face after Jim mentioned his career being destroyed by someone with an agenda really stuck with me.

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During the Harringtons’ Q&A session to buy time for Jim to arrive (the first televised campaign that was cancelled due to Amanda’s death), she was blindsided by Landon. The gay activist on the scene had an “agenda” that almost made Veronica crash and burn, but she was able to make it out like a champ.

That is why I think that she made that face because Jim did exactly what she did!

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Yes, I’ve made mistakes. Yes, my life is in shambles sometimes, but my business has grown each and every year. That is what this state needs; someone who can grow the business in this state each and every year. That is what I am not quitting, that is why I am standing here in front of you to tell you that yes Jim Cryer IS running for governor of the state of Georgia.

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Overall, Jim’s speech did what he wanted it to do. It made him regain a positive image to the public, and this was based on the roar of applause that he received after his speech.

This meme sums up my initial reaction after listening to Jim’s speech:

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Basically, the man was telling one lie after the next…

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Also, Katheryn coming to his side was a sign of unity to express that she is with him no matter what. She certainly knows how to play the role of the understanding wife (at least to the general public).

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David, Maggie and Veronica know that Jim’s political revival means that their plan of getting David to run will be more difficult however; he plans to run on a separate ticket.

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Now that they’ve all be arrested, I am interested to see how things play out. Not just for how they manage to avoid jail, but what it will do to Jim’s campaign now.

What did you think of the speech? Did you want to know what the other characters were thinking while listening to Jim’s words? Do you think being arrested will help or hurt their run for office?

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Dragon Ball Super: Will Vegeta Skip Super Saiyan God?

By Jeremy Carden

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The Saiyan Prince has once again vowed to surpass the Super Saiyan God Goku by following his own path to the level of god.

While some fans have dismissed Vegeta’s attempts to surpass Goku as nothing more than the hotheaded Saiyan once again biting off more than he can chew, I think there is more to it that than.

Yes, I am a HUGE Vegeta fan. Honestly, he is my favorite character in the entire Dragon Ball franchise. However, I am not writing this as a Vegeta fanboy without using some details and information from the series to back up my theory.

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Please keep in mind that I am simply a DB fan writing on the subject of Vegeta POSSIBLY obtaining “Super Saiyan Blue” without going Super Saiyan God.

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DB Wiki (a website that can be edited by fans meaning that any information from it can be taken with a grain of salt) has dubbed Vegeta’s transformation/power-up against Beerus as “Furious Mutation.”

It is described as follows:

Upon being overcome by an extreme rage, the user powers up into their strongest form, however their power skyrockets even further than usual, temporarily blanking out their eyes. In this state, both his skin and body turns with a slight pink tone and blue bolts surround him. Even when the user calms down after using the power-up, the power boost remains.

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Overall, Vegeta lost it after seeing Beerus slap Bulma which caused him to snap.

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This is similar to his assault against Super Perfect Cell after he killed Future Trunks right in front of his eyes.

The key difference here is that even after calming down after his hissy fit (blasting Cell with dozens of ki blasts); Vegeta’s power during his rampaging moment was not sustained.

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Vegeta’s moment of rage was very similar to Gohan’s outburst during the DB series. He would go into a fit of rage whenever he was pushed into a corner, or if someone close to him was hurt by a villain.

From being smacked around with ease to beating the hell out of his opponent, Gohan’s power soared to new heights. However, that power would disappear when he calmed down.

Unlike his past moments of rage, Vegeta had gained a grasp on his enraged power during the Battle of Gods arc.

After the battle with Beerus, Vegeta’s Super Saiyan 2 power had increased from the “Furious Mutation.” He still had access to the power in that state, and was working to increase it even further.

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During episode 16, Vegeta was training alone on a mountain or in the middle of a wasteland. He was seen standing in the rain, and then began powering up when the sun came out.

It was almost as if he was trying to tap into the power he had used against Beerus, and from there take it to the next level.

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Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta perhaps?

Maybe, but sadly I doubt that because of the serious drawbacks that Super Saiyan 3 has when compared to the god level transformations.

In any case, I will say that a Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta would NOT be someone to take lightly.

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Considering the fact that Furious Mutation Vegeta was mentioned to be more powerful than SS3 Goku was (prior to ascending to god level), SS3 Vegeta would a lot stronger than SS3 Goku!

Let’s say that after mastering the Furious Mutation (which made SS2 Vegeta more powerful than SS3 Goku), Vegeta finally goes SS3. That would increase his power Super Saiyan 2 power by 4 making him over 4 times more powerful than SS3 Goku was!

Again, this is just an interesting speculation in terms of Vegeta surpassing Goku.

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Getting back to the true subject of this blog, I think a couple of questions have been raised about Vegeta’s ascension to the level of god. These are the 2 questions to keep in mind:

  1. Can Vegeta skip Super Saiyan God in order to obtain Super Saiyan Blue?
  2. Will Vegeta skip Super Saiyan God in order to obtain Super Saiyan Blue?

It would not surprise me if Vegeta WILL skip SS God in order to get to SS Blue. However, I am not 100% sure if he CAN skip SS God in order to get to SS Blue.

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Saiyan beyond God is the middle form between Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue.

After a Saiyan that has obtained Super Saiyan God reverts back to base form after the god transformation’s time limit runs out, their body can absorb that godly realm of power. This results in the Saiyan’s base form being on a similar level of power as a SS God.

Then if the Saiyan can truly master the power of SS God in the Saiyan beyond God form, going Super Saiyan allows the user to add godly ki to the transformation.

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Meaning that Super Saiyan Blue is a regular Super Saiyan transformation, but it has the presence of godly ki. Keep in mind, the Saiyan is NOT 100% god or 100% Saiyan.

It is almost like a Saiyan-God hybrid of sorts, but it is a powerful transformation without the time limit of SS God.

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Whis told Vegeta that if he learned to control his ki, he could potentially be able to surpass Goku.

Personally, I did not truly understand what Whis meant by that. Was he saying that a Saiyan with ki control could surpass a Saiyan at the god level?

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn’t Goku and Gohan learn about ki control during the Cell Games arc?

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During their training in the Time Chamber, they learned to master the Super Saiyan transformation. This allowed them to control their ki output and maintain their base form personality traits even while transformed as Full Power Super Saiyans.

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Vegeta never trained under the same methods as Goku and Gohan. That was why he had trouble cracking an egg due to using too much force.

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This was very similar to Goku and Gohan trying to hold glass cups during their downtime before the battle with Cell.

Will Vegeta’s training with Whis be similar to Goku and Gohan’s training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber? Basically, they maintained the regular Super Saiyan transformation as long as they could until it felt normal (their new base form).

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I’m hoping that in the next episode, we get to see flashbacks of some of Vegeta’s training. He has been on Beerus’ planet for 6 months, and Whis thought it was the perfect time for Goku to travel there as well.

This could hint at Vegeta being near Goku’s power, but the way he achieved that power has yet to be revealed.

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We do see Vegeta and Goku doing basic chores to help maintain the upkeep of the area where Beerus sleeps.

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After watching those scenes, it reminded me of Goku and Krillin doing chores like delivering milk along with farm work while training under Master Roshi.

If I were to make a semi-educated guess on Vegeta bypassing SS God to obtain SS Blue, I would say that the Saiyans participating in the SS God ritual got a small taste of god power themselves.

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I mean they are transferring their ki into one Saiyan in order for the Saiyan to reach SS God.

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Who is to say some of that godly ki isn’t transferred through all of the participants in the ritual, but only one truly ascends to the SS God level?

That explanation is the only one that I can think of that would actually make some sense as to how Vegeta could skip the SS God transformation in order to get to SS Blue.

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If Vegeta does skip SS God, I think that would be cool because it shows that he wants to surpass Goku, but he will do it on his own. That would be an interesting change of pace from DBGT where he had to rely on Bulma’s Blutz Waves device in order to become SS4 in order to help close the gap between himself and Goku.

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Whis could be training him to master his own ki, and the “sample” of godly ki that was given to him through the SS God ritual for Goku. This is what could allow Vegeta to go SS Blue which is a blending of Super Saiyan and godly ki.

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What do you think? I would love to hear your thoughts in the comment section below.

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Dragon Ball Z: Majin Vegeta vs. Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan

By Jeremy Carden

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A Saiyan Prince returned to his roots vs. a Saiyan-Human hybrid that has finally let his anger fully rise to the surface.

Dragon Ball fans have discussed this battle for quite some time. It may not be one of the more well-known topics of discussion, but I have seen some heated arguments about the victor of this match.

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Keep in mind that Majin Vegeta will be facing the Super Saiyan 2 Gohan seen during the Cell Saga.

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Ultimate Gohan is a lot stronger than he was against Cell (at least in terms of power alone).

However, Gohan had not trained for 7 years. This means that even though his power was truly brought to the surface after Old Kai’s ritual; he did not instantly regain the fighting instinct that he had during his pre-teen years.

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Majin Vegeta is the persona of Vegeta that had buried ever since he opened his heart while living on earth. He was practically the bloodthirsty Saiyan that he was prior to his first meeting with Goku and the Z-Fighters.

That is why I would find this battle so interesting because Vegeta (now living by his Saiyan heritage alone) would be facing off with a Gohan that has let his Saiyan half take control of the wheel.

Basically, we would be seeing 2 Saiyans itching for a good fight!

Who would be the victor?

Let’s take a look at some key elements that could decide the winner of this Super Saiyan duel.

Power:

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In the anime AND manga when Goku powered up to Super Saiyan 2. Vegeta said that he (Goku) was “at least more powerful than your son (Gohan) was against Cell.”

Remember that even Goku was surprised when Majin Vegeta powered up, and stated that the fight might take longer than he had originally thought.

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Considering that Vegeta was literally even with Goku at SS2 (no SS3 here folks), both Saiyans had surpassed the Gohan seen during the Cell Games.

Even though Vegeta is more powerful, I do not think that he would be able to walk away from this battle without a scratch.

Motivation:

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Keep in mind that until the moment Goku sacrificed himself by taking the self-destructing Cell to King Kai’s Planet, Gohan was literally acting like a Saiyan since the moment that he turned SS2.

He was finally letting his timid and reserved temperament take a backseat, and his Saiyan instincts were running the show. Gohan would be looking for an opponent to test out his new power against.

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Majin Vegeta was basically Vegeta letting go of his “human emotions” that he developed while living on earth and the family he created with Bulma. He was basically acting and fighting like he was prior to coming to earth for the Dragon Balls.

This would be the Saiyan Prince from the past that would never allow another being to rival his power (which he claimed was (#1 in the universe). For a half-breed kid to try and fight him would be something that he would never accept. That is why Vegeta would be giving it his all to squash Gohan.

Skill:

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Gohan’s fighting skills were at their best during the Cell Games because he learned everything from his father (minus things like Kaio-Ken, Spirit Bomb and Instant Transmission, etc.). We saw that Goku’s skills were enough to keep Majin Vegeta on his toes, and I’m sure that Gohan would be able to do the same.

I think what would make this fight even more spectacular than the battle against Cell would be the fact that Gohan would be facing someone MORE powerful than he was.

Vegeta would be an opponent that Gohan could not just toss around like he was nothing, and he would have to use 100% power from the start.

Gohan would finally be letting his inner Saiyan out to the surface, and even though Vegeta had decades of practice with that kind of life; I think Gohan would be scarier because he has Saiyan blood plus human rage to further his spectacular power.

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You cannot dismiss the fact that Buu Saga Vegeta had been training for nearly 7 whole years, but not to the extreme level that he did for the Androids. He reduced some of his solo training in order to train Trunks from the present timeline.

Could his brutal skills match up with Gohan who is also brutal, BUT has the training of Goku under his belt? 

During his battle with Cell, Gohan was letting the battle drag on to make the Android suffer.

Vegeta likes to taunt his opponents into showing their true power or willingly let them increase their strength for a greater challenge (even if it leads to his ass being handed to him).

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Both were landing powerful blows to their opponents. Gohan was pulling off an impressive massacre against the Cell Jrs.

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Instead of quickly defeating Cell, Gohan was willing to make him suffer with crippling blows that dealt him great pain.

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Majin Vegeta was trying to kill Goku (who was already dead at the time) with brutal tactics. Seriously, they were fighting at full force, but you could tell that Vegeta was going for blood!

These two were MADE to battle each other!

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Overall, I think that Majin Vegeta would be the victor, but it would be one hell of a fight!

If you told me that Gohan came out as the victor, I wouldn’t be surprised. I’d just want to know how he pulled it off!

Gohan coming out the victor could be the result of Vegeta doing a Saiyan monologue allowing his opponent to get the upper hand.

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Not to mention, Vegeta could push Gohan into a corner and despite his power being at this peak; Gohan might be able to dig even deeper to tap into an even higher level of power!

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The Father-Son Kamehameha Wave could be considered a tag-team attack. Would that be fair in this 1-on-1 battle?

Goku was technically there “in spirit” so Gohan is allowed to use the attack in this fight because Goku wouldn’t be adding his ki to Gohan’s attack.

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Despite Majin Vegeta’s ultimate attack being the Final Explosion, I do not know if he could use it in this battle. The reason is because if he uses the attack; he dies along with his opponent (assuming it is enough to take them out).

I am not even 100% certain that Gohan would even put up that good of a battle to make Vegeta resort to a kamikaze attack…

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Overall, this battle is one that I would love to see in some form of media (outside of the video games in the player’s own what-if battles).

Who do you think would come out on top?

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